Podcast Ep 46: PJ Nestler, Director of Performance at XPT Life & FitLab

Our guest today is performance-expert, PJ Nestler. PJ is the Director of Performance at FitLab and at XPT Life.  XPT is a performance lifestyle company, founded by Laird Hamilton and Gabby Reece, which uses the pillars of Breathe, Move, Recover to help people become more versatile and resilient humans.  PJ brings well over a decade of experience training athletes ranging from the UFC, NFL, NHL, MLB and is a regular speaker on subjects in human performance. 

In this episode, PJ and Matt discussed PJ’s career in the fitness industry, training UFC athletes, what it takes to keep a fighter prepared, and what makes a good coach.  They also talked about PJ’s role at XPT and FitLab.

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Show Notes:

2:00 – Entering the Fitness Industry. “Generally speaking, because combat sports are so varied and every fight is different, that’s what really made training fighters my passion.  It was such a complex puzzle to solve because it is literally impossible to optimize everything.”

14:30 – Keeping a Fighter Ready. “I think they have to be physically and mentally ready. If it was a scale from 1-10, they have to feel like an 8.5 year-round.”

18:00 – The Toolbox of a Great Coach. “I think the psychological component of coaching is, by far, the biggest. I always tell young coaches, when they reach out to me for advice, “If you’re not studying behavioral psychology and how you can influence people, you’re missing the boat.”

26:30 – XPT. “XPT is really the evolution of the way Laird Hamilton and Gabby Reece look at health, wellness, and fitness.”

34:00 – Director of Performance. “My goal of creating an online, breath-work certification course was to look at all of the different breath-work that exists. And that’s an area where people are super dogmatic – they have an approach to breathing and that’s what they teach. And just like exercise, there is not a one-size-fits-all approach, so my goal was to figure out which practices are best for who – who they’re good for, who they’re not good for.”

45:00 – FitLab. “I wanted to raise the bar for fitness professionals. I wanted to help bring a higher level of professionalism to the industry. I wanted to change the narrative of people looking at trainers as a meathead, fitness enthusiasts.

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